Holly ([info]several_bees) wrote,
@ 2006-09-06 19:24:00
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Mostly of interest to Adelaide people, probably
So, I'm moving country, which means getting rid of most of the things I own. Fortunately I left a thousand books behind a couple of moves ago, so it's not as difficult as it could be, there's only about 500 left. And some furniture. And everything else in the house.

Except not everything, just the things I don't care about quite enough to ship to the UK. There are some clothes that won't fit in my suitcase, because apparently I have four coats now; some art supplies I know I'll have to rebuy the moment I want to draw something, if I don't bring them; some board games I'll definitely play again (Ebbe and Flut squeezed inside the Citadels box, which is squeezed inside Carcassonne). And some vegemite and biscuits and Haighs chocolate, because I know you claim there's food in the northern hemisphere but I don't really believe it, and you certainly don't have chocolate-coated Scotch Fingers.

So I've got a few cubic feet of the things I really want, and another cubic foot or two of stuff that's no good to me or anyone else but which I can't bear to throw out because it has sentimental value, which is shorthand for "is so precious to me that I'll put it in a damp box to rot in my mother's shed for twenty years and then throw it out". And then a huge pile of everything else in the house. How do pyramids work? I have this conviction that there's an inner sanctum with the pharoah's important stuff, his organs and masks and servants, and then more rooms outside with the things that he'd like to have in the next world but, you know, baggage allowances these days, and shipping costs are frightful, and he doesn't really need that two-hundredth tunic, and surely there'll be somewhere he can get kohl in the afterlife, so never mind about those, but maybe squeeze in another packet of Delta Creams.

A list of the stuff that doesn't quite make it to the inner sanctum is here. Do you want some of it? Free if you only want a couple of things, AU$2 per thing if you want more, and if you're in Adelaide you'll have to collect it yourself. If you're not in Adelaide, I can send it to you, but you'll have to pay for the postage from Australia, which is terrifyingly expensive. It might still be worth looking at the books in case there's something you desperately want, but it's unlikely to be cheaper than getting it from the local second-hand bookshop. Books seem to weigh about 200-500 grams each; postage costs by boat, which would probably take a couple of months to get to you:
$8 for up to 250 grams
$12 for up to 500 grams
$20 for up to a kilo
$30 for up to 1.5 kilos
$35 for up to 2 kilos
An extra $5 for each additional 500 grams or part thereof.
That's Australian dollars; divide by 2.4 to get pounds, 1.3 to get US dollars, or multiply by 6 to get Ancient Egyptian grain withdrawal chits. Add about fifty percent again if you want it by air, which takes a week to ten days. Bargain prices if you buy bulk: $800 plus shipping for everything in the house.



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[info]huskyteer
2006-09-06 10:00 am UTC (link)
Nothing I want desperately enough to pay postage on, but I love nosing other people's book collections nonetheless. Even the parts they're prepared to throw out. (I got especially excited by all the First World War autobiography.)

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-06 10:15 am UTC (link)
The list's quite fun for not fitting very well with my idea of what my book collection should be like. Partly because of the few I can't bear to get rid of, I suppose (nobody's having my Metamagical Themas! Or my moomin books! And I haven't finished reading Annals of a Fortress, I'll take it on the plane...), and because of the embarrassing or slightly bemusing presents, but I was surprised that there's so little poetry, and I can't imagine what I thought I was going to do with that many dictionaries of literary terms/theory/anecdotes. Or indeed any dictionaries of literary terms/theory/anecdotes.

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[info]freyaw
2006-09-06 12:11 pm UTC (link)
Between us, Bastard and I would like:

All the Diana Wynne Jones except Fire & Hemlock, and Magicians of Caprona. I think I have Dogsbody, too, but that's in one of the boxes under the bed (we have more bookshelves now! Wheeeeee!) but even if I don't I believe I know someone who'd really enjoy it.
Patricia Wred, Snow White & Rose Red
Quiller Couch, On The Art Of Writing
An Old English Grammar
Encyclopedia of Mystery and Detection
The Gym Mat
At least one of the rhyming dictionaries

And Bastard would like to know how big the plastic crates with Wheels are before we put dibs on those (the ones under the spare room bed are incredibly useful).

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-06 12:26 pm UTC (link)
You might be too late for the gym-mat, my brother's just said he wants it if he can fit it somewhere; will let you know once he's worked that out.

If it's still worth your trouble to collect stuff without the gym mat - two of the plastic crates are 56*40*20 cm, two are 56*40*32, one is 56*40*40; you can have any three (I want to keep two for storage but I don't mind what size).

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[info]mockduck
2006-09-06 12:38 pm UTC (link)
Ha ha 'would suit pregnant goth'.

OK, I've missed why you're moving to the UK. Why are you and how long are you staying, and where?

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-06 12:49 pm UTC (link)
Oh, because it seems like fun, and because most of the people I know live there, and because my grandmother's Scottish so I can, by the power of an ancestry visa, so why not? I like winter, I like German boardgames (which are much cheaper to buy in the UK), I'd quite like to live in a place where I can visit another city without having to catch an expensive flight or sit on a train for ten hours. Adelaide's lovely, but I've always lived here, and I've been vaguely intending to try living somewhere else for at least the last ten years. I'm rambling, aren't I? That's probably because I don't really know why I'm moving.

I'm not sure how long I'll be staying, either; maybe for ever, maybe I'll flee in horror after a year. But I'll be moving (with [info]kevandotorg, who is English) into [info]verlaine and [info]the_alchemist's spare room in Battersea, at least to start off with; we'll be poking around the rest of the country for a while and visiting different cities to see if any of them seem nicer to live in.

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[info]mockduck
2006-09-06 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Oh. That's very enviable. I wish I'd lived in more places while I was able to do so.

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-06 01:50 pm UTC (link)
Gosh, you've just made me less pointlessly angsty about this. I've been feeling a bit panicked and flaily about it lately, wondering why I wanted to move and what I'm going to do once I have and how I'm ever going to get everything sorted out in time, and argh I have always lived in Adelaide so what will happen when I am suddenly deprived of personal context? and what if I starve to death in the gutters of London?, and all of that sort of thing. But now I'm just feeling a bit sheepishly guilty about being able to move without a proper reason and not appreciating it properly. So, er, thanks for that.

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[info]mockduck
2006-09-06 02:25 pm UTC (link)
You are bound to feel anxiety before such a big move; I feel like that even when I am only going on holiday.
That's the trouble with life, I find. You can't stay where you are and go away and have adventures. I met a husband with no desire to travel, and then I had a child, and both those things have pinned me down, but I assume that if I'd done what I nearly did many years ago, and moved to Japan to teach, I'd now be similarly angsty about whether to move back home or stay. So plunge in. As you get older I think that, unless you are a particularly resistant and strong person, your choices narrow down. You won't starve to death anyway because LJ will be keeping an eye on you...

And nothing's irreversable.

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[info]wzdd
2006-09-06 04:59 pm UTC (link)
I don't know you very well (mostly I read your journal because it's hilarious - I mean I'm sure *you* would be hilarious too, if we knew one another, but we don't, so let's stick with the writing for now) but if it helps I also think moving to the UK because you feel like it is a fine idea. I hope it works out for you. Avoid gutters.

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-09 12:45 pm UTC (link)
Thanks - another person not saying "you're what? Why? What are you going to do there? How?" is reassuring.

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pointless angst is the best kind
[info]citizenx
2006-09-08 03:25 am UTC (link)
I was completely stress-wracked (to the point of making myself sick) with my recent big move, and that was with a proper reason, staying in the same country, and with some help. It was "fun".

It seems somewhat silly in retrospect, but that's the way it was. Things are fine now, but I'm still learning many things, having only been here for a little over a month.

I second the "avoid gutters" advice.

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Re: pointless angst is the best kind
[info]several_bees
2006-09-09 12:46 pm UTC (link)
Well, yes, angst with a compelling reason behind it would be worse, good point.

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[info]dancinglights
2006-09-06 12:43 pm UTC (link)
gahhh...books..want. looking up on amazon informs probably cheaper than shipping from OZ. but.. book! history of fashion!

um. Actually, is that one any good historically speaking? If it's the one I think it is, it may be worth paying for postage.

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-06 12:57 pm UTC (link)
It's this one. It's quite fun, it does history-of-fashion by way of looking at how fashion was recorded, so lots of divergences into costume books and woodcuts and illustrations and the advent of photography and so on. Not sure how exhaustive/rigorous it is though.

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[info]dancinglights
2006-09-06 04:52 pm UTC (link)
hoom. Math via Amazon's helpful shipping weight and 'used and new'link suggests that it would cost relatively the same to get it from you as used through them. Which is a bit much effort either way, especially for you, so I'll wait on it. I'll probably regret it later.

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[info]joranj
2006-09-06 12:56 pm UTC (link)
Ooh, Epic of Giglamesh! Tempted, but the cost of shipping makes it seem a bit arbitrary.

A fridge, Kelvinator, three years old, small-to-medium sized, $150

Someone told me that fridges have a degree of social importance in Australia, is that true or have I fallen for a drop-bears style urban myth?

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-06 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Mm, s'a light one so it'd probably come in under 250 grams, but I imagine that even so you could get a Gilgamesh for less than the shipping in a second-hand bookshop quite easily, unless it's much scarcer over there than it is here. Once you start shipping a few kilograms it gets less expensive per-book, so if I unexpectedly get a lot of people in London wanting things I'll throw them all in a box together and it'll be less extortionate, but it doesn't seem likely.

I think the fridge claim is a lie, but perhaps it's true and I move in the wrong social circles. It's not a famous hoax that we've all agreed to perpetuate, like drop-bears and John Howard, in any case.

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[info]freyaw
2006-09-06 02:29 pm UTC (link)
Fridges are where you put food to stop it going off, or melting. In summer, a thingy of butter (IIRC, they come in 250g and 500g lumps) will be melted within half an hour of being left on the bench in my parents' kitchen. Forget keeping chocolate anywhere but the freezer if you want to eat it somewhere other than the bathroom. If you want food and drink that isn't blood temperature during summer, you need a fridge. Big fridges are essential if you want to put things like alcohol in it. Thus, subconsciously, big fridge = supplier of beer (to persons who drink the stuff).

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[info]freyaw
2006-09-06 02:31 pm UTC (link)
And by 'melted' I mean dripping on the floor, and by 'summer' I mean during one of the heatwaves that I consider normal summer weather here in Adelaide, where it occasionally gets below 30C at night.

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[info]joranj
2006-09-06 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Surprisingly, I understand the concept of fridges, and indeed the necessity of them in sunnier climes - I spent a few years of my youth in South Africa and know how essential they can become! What I questioned, though, was the idea of fridge as a status symbol, in the manner of a mobile phone or a flash car. But I suppose form follows function; the more useful or essential somthing is, the more likely it is to be fetishised. Also, I suppose, beer :)

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[info]freyaw
2006-09-07 01:43 am UTC (link)
Beer is foul stuff, IMO, but you can only fit 2.5 sixpacks in a bar fridge, and a small fridge just doesn't have room for the homebrew. I wouldn't call them fetishised, but then, I don't see the point of having a prettier car, either. I do see the point of having a second fridge in the shed/garage.

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[info]joranj
2006-09-07 08:14 am UTC (link)
Foul, I agree, but then, as a non-drinker, I've never acquired the taste.

Shame about fridges. I guess I'm going to have to file that one under 'urban myth.'

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Always a pleasure
[info]malixe
2006-09-06 05:20 pm UTC (link)
I'm always happy to see one of your all too infrequent posts. You're wry, erudite, and highly amusing all at once. (Or in rapid succession, anyway.) I adore that.

Even your flea-market list manages to crack me up. Your grocery lists would probably have me rolling on the floor... (OK, I'm probably exaggerating a little, but I wouldn't be surprised.)

Sadly, there's nothing there that looks so precious to me that it would be worth paying the shipping to Seattle.

Good luck with your move, I'm sure the UK will be rightfully pleased to have you.

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[info]ravenblack
2006-09-06 10:05 pm UTC (link)
Her shopping lists are funny.

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Re: Always a pleasure
[info]several_bees
2006-09-09 12:47 pm UTC (link)
Thanks - and mm, I'm hoping to post more frequently once I'm settled into the UK, but I've made that sort of resolution before, so who knows? I'm less panicked about the whole move thing now, anyway, distracted from it by panic about getting a thesis draft finished...

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[info]levez
2006-09-06 05:30 pm UTC (link)
Great, you're moving to England.

Now I'm going to have to think of a whole new set of reasons to not see you. *glum*

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-07 01:42 am UTC (link)
I assumed you'd be going for revealing that you don't actually exist, and are really Nik's evil alter-ego.

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[info]levez
2006-09-07 05:41 am UTC (link)
Nik's evil alter-ego. Oh my, you are horribly confused there...

WHAT? NIK IS THERE? GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!

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[info]reverancepavane
2006-09-07 06:32 am UTC (link)
If no one else is particularly enthused, then I am sure I can give works by Tom Stoppard a good home (well, I have already, as a point of fact), hopefully without the danger of the added mass causing a total collapse into a hypermass.

Although if anyone has yet to encounter the joys of a Stoppard play, then I encourage them do do so, for I am more than happy to relinquish any claim, implied or otherwise, if it means someone gets to enjoy some Stoppard for the first time.

And my downstair's neighbour would probably thank you for your valiant, if unheralded, sacrifice.

Hmmmm. Maybe I should grab the herald book as well. Although I may already have it.

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[info]several_bees
2006-09-09 12:49 pm UTC (link)
Mm, nobody seems to want the Stoppards (the fools!). I'll be in most of the time till next weekend, anyway, if you want to come over and grab them at some point; won't have time to deliver them, though.

Sorry not to have arranged a time for boardgames before leaving, by the way; I did want to, but it's all been so terrifyingly terrifyingly busy.

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good luck
(Anonymous)
2006-09-12 06:28 am UTC (link)
All the best Holly. Hope you enjoy the UK and that hidden and mysterious unwritten history.......maybe your imagination can unlock some of it.
best wishes, Geoff.........

The quince was sitting on the shelf
Getting lonely by itself
A beautiful lady (by the name of Pam)
Added sugar, and then,- quince jam!

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